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  Candace Conti - Preparing For The Appeal

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  no doubt, wtbts ny will appeal this to the best of their ability, and they have almost unlimited financial resources behind them.. i wish i was in a position to fund candace through the appeal, but i'm not, nor i am cognisant with california law or the general fedaral law in us.. but i was a police officer in the uk for 30 years, 10 of that as a commander of a fraud squad, member of the national working group on fraud, europol, etc.

  i did spend some time in the us working with fbi on a joint case.. my point is this.

  i've read through some of the court papers including depositions and the one that stuck in my mind was the dep taken from the witness who worked in bethel and was asked about 'collated data' re child abusers.

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  Joe Grundy

  I'm not suggesting that Candace's lawyer was in any way deficient.

  Just offering a hand, is all.
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  Candace Conti - Preparing For The Appeal

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  no doubt, wtbts ny will appeal this to the best of their ability, and they have almost unlimited financial resources behind them.. i wish i was in a position to fund candace through the appeal, but i'm not, nor i am cognisant with california law or the general fedaral law in us.. but i was a police officer in the uk for 30 years, 10 of that as a commander of a fraud squad, member of the national working group on fraud, europol, etc.

  i did spend some time in the us working with fbi on a joint case.. my point is this.

  i've read through some of the court papers including depositions and the one that stuck in my mind was the dep taken from the witness who worked in bethel and was asked about 'collated data' re child abusers.

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  sir82: The secret, the 'knack' in doing this is to 'play dumb' - get them to explain it to you as if you undertand nothing. Except you do (from research) and THEN you ask the 'beam me up scottie' questions.

  Worked for me. Oh, and KISS. Juries love that.
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  Candace Conti - Preparing For The Appeal

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  no doubt, wtbts ny will appeal this to the best of their ability, and they have almost unlimited financial resources behind them.. i wish i was in a position to fund candace through the appeal, but i'm not, nor i am cognisant with california law or the general fedaral law in us.. but i was a police officer in the uk for 30 years, 10 of that as a commander of a fraud squad, member of the national working group on fraud, europol, etc.

  i did spend some time in the us working with fbi on a joint case.. my point is this.

  i've read through some of the court papers including depositions and the one that stuck in my mind was the dep taken from the witness who worked in bethel and was asked about 'collated data' re child abusers.

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  Joe Grundy

  No doubt, WTBTS NY will appeal this to the best of their ability, and they have almost unlimited financial resources behind them.

  I wish I was in a position to fund Candace through the appeal, but I'm not, nor I am cognisant with California law or the general fedaral law in US.

  But I was a police officer in the UK for 30 years, 10 of that as a commander of a Fraud Squad, member of the National Working Group on Fraud, Europol, etc. I did spend some time in the US working with FBI on a joint case.

  My point is this. I've read through some of the court papers including depositions and the one that stuck in my mind was the dep taken from the witness who worked in Bethel and was asked about 'collated data' re child abusers. (It's been referenced here, but I can't link to it).

  I understand that the dep was taken by Candace's lawyer, or someone on the team, but it failed to produce the evidence properly because it didn't ask the questions in enough depth (common failing).

  For example:

  Is there a procedure whereby congregations report disciplinary committees to WTBTS?

  Are those reports filed?

  How are they filed?

  Is the subject matter of the discipline noted?

  etc., etc.

  It would not be hard to get to the point that reports of child abuse COULD be identified.

  The point of this post is that even though WTBTS have the financial resources (they think) a goood investigator going through their published papers and their personnel could blow the whole thing apart.

  And here is a genuine offer (I don't make less than genuine ones): I'd be happy to travel to CA and assist Candace's team (my expense) if it would help.
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  Here is their policy on child abuse from JW-media.org

  by not bitter in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.jw-media.org/aboutjw/article23.htm.

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  Marking for analysis and comment.
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  Its on the Daily Mail Website!!!!!

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160605/candance-conti-molested-jehovahs-witnesses-member-age-nine-wins-28milion.html.

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  Cedars: you might want to look at the BBC MB link above.
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  Plaintiff awarded in punitive damages -21M & 1 dollar. Total award, 28M & 1 dollar. Here's more info

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the plaintiff, candace conti's goal from the very beginning was to bring enough attention to this problem to incentivize watchtower to change its policy of secrecy.

  the award can be explained as it was decided: separate compensatory and punitive damages.

  the punitive award is established in law to punish wrongdoing - here, the conscious disregard for others - and deter that conduct in the future.

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  My understanding of the award from reading the court documents is this:

  'Injury damages': $7m, split Kendrick 60%, congregation 13%, WTBTS NY 27%

  Punitive damages (on the basis of 'malice'): $21,000,001.00 ALL against WTBTS NY.

  I stand to be corrected.
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  Watchtower Lawsuit on Twitter

  by purplesofa in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i just checked twitter and the story is picking up tremendously there.. many people only get their news from twitter now.. i encourage you to use twitter, you can do this anonymously.. rt (return the stories) get familiar with twitter if you are not already.. it's a wonderful format for spreading the news.. many activist will see this and spread the story that have many followers.... the time to do this is now, before the story gets too old.

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  Cedars: Pls see the 'It's on the Daily Mail' thread.
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  Its on the Daily Mail Website!!!!!

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160605/candance-conti-molested-jehovahs-witnesses-member-age-nine-wins-28milion.html.

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  Joe Grundy

  Thanks! I hope that this will bring the story to a new audience.
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  Its on the Daily Mail Website!!!!!

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160605/candance-conti-molested-jehovahs-witnesses-member-age-nine-wins-28milion.html.

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  Joe Grundy

  Bumping in the hope that someone can make my link 'clickable'.

  Thanks
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  Its on the Daily Mail Website!!!!!

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160605/candance-conti-molested-jehovahs-witnesses-member-age-nine-wins-28milion.html.

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  Joe Grundy

  I've posted a message with links to this on the biggest BBC messageboard:

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbarchers/NF2693943?thread=8360673

  This should help to get the story out.

  (Sorry don't know how to make it 'clickable')